I’ve been doing quite a bit of dungeons lately while working on my Project Ten, at various level ranges – and something struck me about the difference between level 85 Heroics and lower level dungeons.
Have you ever noticed that people while leveling seem to be a lot more relaxed towards people learning to play and making mistakes?
Low level instances have their own issues of course, and their own asshats. But for the most part, people seem more relaxed and helpful in my experience.
Example 1: The Nexus (normal), me on 73 Resto Shaman
We had a Warrior tank in this dungeon and he really had no idea what he was doing. He admitted to being new to tanking as we zoned in, and he definitely was. There were issues with threat, with rotations and well… a little bit of everything.
Despite this, the people in the group were being helpful. Instead of berating him for joining as a tank without knowing how to properly tank (which I think is fine – because doing is learning), he was given tips on how to improve. We taught him the fine art of putting up rend and thunderclapping to spread it to the adds. We waited as he learned how to shockwave and get the adds nicely lined up.
He apologised time and again as he failed to do something, and we kept reassuring him that it was fine – and explaining how he could do it better. (It helps that healing is rather overpowered at these levels, and I can heal through almost anything – including every dps tanking its own add *cough*)
As the hunter said at one point; “Well, it’s good that you learn now, because maybe at level 85 you’ll be tanking my Heroics!”
Example 2: Any 85 Heroic (me on any 85)
- One wipe; people leave.
- “OMG you’re wearing PvP gear.”
- “Your gear sucks l2pnoob.”
Now, I’m not saying that all 85 Heroics are like that – I’ve had plenty of good ones as well. I just find it interesting that I see a lot more berating of other players in 85 Heroics than I do in the lower level dungeons. Why is that?
Do we have less tolerance for people at level 85 because we expect them to know how to play their class by then? Quite possibly, yes. I know I get annoyed when someone obviously doesn’t know how to play at that level.
However, I do think there’s a difference to someone not playing their class right – and someone not knowing the tactics because it’s their first time un a dungeon, or they don’t have full epic gear yet.
Quite honestly, if you have full epic gear – why would you even be doing said Heroics? I guess there’s the mount runs and similar, but for my Warlock for example – there is nothing for her to get from Valor Points by now, and I don’t run Heroics because of it. The points I get from raids is enough, and I don’t even necessarily know what to do with those. (Because I never get the head or shoulders so I can spend it! *growl*)
Have you noticed a difference in attitudes between people in Heroics and people in lower level dungeons? What do you think is the reason?